"Some thoughts

Beginning: Not controversial enough. The two of you have an inauthentic disagreement about Ming, and there's no hint really about what the topics of conversation are going to be throughout the podcast. At the beginning, the two of you sound too similar, so it's difficult to tell who's speaking, though your voices differente better later.

Middle: shitting pants is better. Oaten stuff is funny.

End: Kelly stuff fine. The podcast gets better as time goes on. Was lacklustre at the beginning.

The Podcast was missing an ending".